

Today I was reminded of my place in the female hierarchy.Read the rest of the article here and visit Tami's Blog and PLEASE read this post (something Black people do, and is at the top of my list of pet peeves!), while you're over there...I was in an impromptu meeting with a 50-something white man and a white woman who is my age, when this exchange occurred:
White male: The only people who liked that design were under 28.
White female: Under 37…I loved it.
Me: Yeah. Me too.
White male: (to white female, pointedly) Well, YOU don’t look older than 28.
White female: (to me–maybe attempting to soften white male’s comment) You don’t either.
White male: (eyeing me) Mmmm…I don’t know about that.
It is peculiar–in my experience, some white men don’t relate to black women as women. On more than one occaision, at more than one job, a white male co-worker has made comments to me that violate society’s codes of chivalry. What gentleman comments on how old a woman looks? This is not the first time the man in question has made a subtly derogatory comment about my appearance. I have also noticed how his eyes slide distastefully over my natural hair.
When I began typing this post, I worried that I was overreacting. In the re-telling, the offense seems so petty and maybe subject to interpretation. Maybe it wasn’t about race at all, maybe my co-worker simply finds me haggard looking and is surprisingly untactful. So, I called up a good friend–another black woman–that I can always count on for wise counsel. She understood exactly what I meant about the peculiar state of non-femaleness black women sometimes occupy in the mainstream. It is the weird flip side to the stereotype of the wanton black sexual temptress.
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you know, your posts and writings about black culture or history or pride or what have you always leave me feeling a little hesitant to post, if only because I know that I have no clue whatsoever what it is like to stand in a black woman's shoes. and I know I am not the first person to ever think that I don't want to talk about it lest I be offensive or ignorant. but I find these posts interesting and enlightening and I appreciate being able to see a side of things I would not otherwise have been exposed to, so thank you.
I feel badly for her that she felt slighted. and I think she was right to feel that way. but I have no semblance of an answer to offer to it either. it must be very frustrating.
thanks for leading me to her site - she is a wonderful writer.
as for that pet peeve thing - I agree with tami's assessment that, unfortunately, black people mention other parts of their heritage as explaining "good" physical features while subtly implying that their blackness represents their "bad" ones. it reminds me (and I am jewish) of people talking about "self-hating jews." like they are somehow apologizing for their background and making light of it. it undermines everything that you, and other proud black women, work so hard for in our culture. it's a shame, truly.
hope you're having a good weekend, my dear.
you know, your posts and writings about black culture or history or pride or what have you always leave me feeling a little hesitant to post, if only because I know that I have no clue whatsoever what it is like to stand in a black woman's shoes. and I know I am not the first person to ever think that I don't want to talk about it lest I be offensive or ignorant. but I find these posts interesting and enlightening and I appreciate being able to see a side of things I would not otherwise have been exposed to, so thank you.
Melissa, I'm glad you find my posts regarding race from a black woman's point of view enlightening. I'm also glad that you offer your feedback despite the fact that you aren't Black. I think bloggers of color, who BWB (blog while black) always run the risk of someone disagreeing or trolling it up anonymously when they leave comments. Me? I don't fear that shit, nor am I intimidated by it. I have a very public forum here, and don't expect everyone to agree with me 100% of the time.
Tami's blog is very well written and much of what she has to say is spot on. I don't think she wants her ignoramus coworker to validate her beauty. I think she wants him to respect her as a WOMAN, regardless of whether or not he's finds her physically attractive. From what I've read, she already has a wonderful man in her life.
I think it's safe to assume that most Black women (I know I'm not anyway) are NOT seeking validation from White men. Because in the grand scheme of things, they don't dictate my "womanness." I do.
We want to be respected and not made to feel inferior or unattractive just because we aren't blond or because our eyes are brown and our hair isn't bone straight or because our figures are voluptuous. To each his or her own, but it's not for anyone to say that ONE type of beauty is the universal criteria for ALL women. Period. (hence the furor over Don Imus's "nappy headed hoes" remark).
Black women contend with triple the discrimination. We're up against racial prejudices, sexual stereotypes, AND sexism. And many of us constantly have to fight to prove our worth. Not just aesthetically, but intellectually as well. It gets frustrating and tiring after awhile. Hence the chip some White people may THINK they see. They see a chip. I see strength, pride, and resilience. In any event, I appreciated Tami's post. And more importantly, I appreciate you offering your feedback on my "conscious" blog entries. :-)
hmmm
that graphic was amazing
just made me think about something that's been bugging me recently:
who invented color contacts?
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